https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/gandalf-was-only-a-fifth-level-magic-user.300886/
> by Bill Seligman What?? I hear you scream. Impossible, you cry; Gandalf was at least 30th, 40th, even 50th level!! After all, he was an Istari, and he had lived at least 2000 years! Oh, really?, I reply. Let us take a look at all the magic he ever performed, and see what was so high level about...